πŸŽ„ The Most Famous Kids In Cancer Advocacy Are Back πŸŽ„

Every December since they could speak, my twins hijack the Out of Patients podcast feed. Koby and Hannah are now 15Β½ and High School sophomores who own their moniker as the β€œTruman Show of Cancer Advocacy.”

Rest assured, this isn’t your typical year-end family podcast; it’s what happens when you raise GenZ kids in GenX fashion inside the machine that is American Healthcare. Funny. Smart. Opinionated. Fully formed humans borne of two trauma-informed 80s kids who don’t believe in participation trophies.

This year delivers everything longtime listeners wait for. A Brooklyn sidewalk sprint that ends with a face full of blood and a subway ride home that alarms strangers. Broadway deep cuts through Chess, & Juliet, and Patrick Page that would make any theater nerd proud. Disneyland chaos with Lightning McQueen, and when a life-size Millennium Falcon causes a full neurological shutdown. A Bugatti sighting at the New York Auto Show that still lives rent-free. Learner permit countdowns. AP class pressure. Donuts. Crumbl cookies. Sibling sniping.

What kills me every December is hearing them get older. Eight years of these recordings. Their voices changing. Their references evolving from Minecraft to Hazbin Hotel (LOTS of Hazbin Hotel).

But the core stays the same: Brooklyn kids who know only unfettered, unbridled, and uncompromising love from their parents and their family.

This is my legacy, just not the nonprofit kind with 990s, financial audits, and wondering where in the world is Kenny Kane. The real legacy where your kids understand why you fight but refuse to let it define them.

Listen to this episode. Leave a review if it hits. Five stars help us reach families who need proof that survival creates something beyond scars.

Out of Patients drops weekly. The twins drop annually (and on the occasional bonus Summer vacation show) Both are required listening.

#OutOfPatients #CancerAdvocacy #LegacyWork

EPISODE ➑️ https://www.outofpatients.com/koby-hannahs-2025-holiday-podcast-spectacular/

Matthew Zachary

Matthew Zachary has spent three decades fighting to make the American healthcare system less cruel, organizing millions through advocacy and media. A former concert pianist whose life was turned upside down by brain cancer at just 21, he founded Stupid Cancer, the largest nonprofit for young adults with cancer. He also launched The Stupid Cancer Show, widely regarded as the first healthcare podcast, which later evolved into the award-winning Out of Patients. He produced Cancer Mavericks, a documentary series about the rebel patients who changed modern oncology. He is CEO and Co-Founder of We The Patients, a national movement organizing patients into collective civic power, and the author of We the Patients: Understanding, Navigating, and Surviving America’s Healthcare Nightmare (Wiley, May 2026) with Jen Singer.

https://www.matthewzachary.com
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