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What happens when someone with Long COVID also happens to chair a biotech company?

You get Marc Elia.

This episode was sponsored by Invivyd, Inc.

Marc is the Chairman of the Board at Invivyd. He’s also a guy who got sick, stayed sick, and saw every flaw in the system from both sides of the table. That’s exactly why I wanted him on the show.

This episode goes deep into the immunocompromised invisible population that never got a return ticket from the pandemic. Marc lays out the challenges of regulatory decisions, and why he thinks the word adequate should be retired from healthcare. He drops lines about meme crypto, 1980s commercial flights, and being a nightmare patient with a search engine.

I learned a lot. Mostly that empathy without action is theater, and that even the highest-level insiders can still feel powerless when the system decides they don’t matter.

Marc didn’t come on the show to play nice. He came to tell the truth.

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https://www.outofpatients.com/building-tools-not-excuses-rethinking-healthcare-with-marc-elia/

Matthew Zachary

Matthew Zachary has spent three decades fighting to make the American healthcare system less cruel, organizing millions through advocacy and media. A former concert pianist whose life was turned upside down by brain cancer at just 21, he founded Stupid Cancer, the largest nonprofit for young adults with cancer. He also launched The Stupid Cancer Show, widely regarded as the first healthcare podcast, which later evolved into the award-winning Out of Patients. He produced Cancer Mavericks, a documentary series about the rebel patients who changed modern oncology. He is CEO and Co-Founder of We The Patients, a national movement organizing patients into collective civic power, and the author of We the Patients: Understanding, Navigating, and Surviving America’s Healthcare Nightmare (Wiley, May 2026) with Jen Singer.

https://www.matthewzachary.com
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