🚨 NEW PODCAST EPISODE: UNF*CKING HEALTHCARE WITH DEB GORDON 🚨

Ever gotten a medical bill that made you question your life choices?

Ever battled an insurance company and lost, even though *you* were the one paying *them*?

Ever tried to navigate healthcare and felt like you accidentally walked into a Kafka novel?

Yeah. Same.

That’s why I sat down with Deb Gordon, a certified badass in the world of (what I call) "healthcare consumer advocacy"". She co-founded Umbra Health, co-directs the Alliance of Professional Health Advocates, and literally wrote the book (*The Healthcare Consumer’s Manifesto*) on how not to get financially obliterated by medical bills, prior auths, and the general incompetence of our beloved system.

This episode is a guided tour of the bureaucratic hellscape we call American healthcare, complete with war stories, survival tips, and the reassuring knowledge that yes, *you can hire someone to help unf*ck your situation. It’s the conversation you didn’t know you needed—until your next surprise bill arrives for something you were told was "covered."

Out of Patients is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

And if you like what you hear, go rate and review the pod so I can keep exposing the madness, one absurdity at a time.